Hi TxGirl, I never heard that either and will defineately have to try it. Not doubting your word mind you just gotta see it for myself :-) very interesting indeed!! Don't you just love the magic circle? Oh my goodness, I have been using it for some time and I think it's great especially since everyone always wants a new hat!! That ok I like making hats actually I like making anything that someone else can enjoy! Have a good night hugs Winnie